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Interviews about cannabis, psychedelics, self-optimization and All Things Green.

Host Lex Pelger sits down with scientists, activists, adventurers, policy-makers, underground herbalists, nature nerds, radical lawyers and others doing their part to make the world a greener place.

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Apr 19, 2018

Myrtle Clark has been fighting a court battle in South Africa since 2010, after she and her husband were arrested for growing and smoking cannabis. Since then this mild, middle-aged couple has become a powerhouse of activism. Myrtle talks to Lex about the move toward legalization in her country, the legacy of apartheid, and what other nations can learn from her approach as the whole Western world gets a little closer to achieving freedom of consciousness.



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