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Interviews about cannabis, psychedelics, self-optimization and All Things Green.

Host Lex Pelger sits down with scientists, activists, adventurers, policy-makers, underground herbalists, nature nerds, radical lawyers and others doing their part to make the world a greener place.

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Sep 13, 2018

Today's interview is about the rights of women during pregnancy, and whether new mothers should be persecuted for having substances like cannabis in their bloodstream during pregnancy.

Lex speaks with molecular biologist Heather Thompson, and attorney Indra Lusero. They run a birth justice organization called Elephant Circle. They tell Lex about their work, their values, and the experiences that brought them to activism.
their upcoming art show:

National Advocates for Pregnant Women

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The Greener Grass Podcast is a BlueBird Botanicals Production

Music from Brett Van Donsel // Birdsong from Lang Elliott